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Tuesday, December 2, 2008

Analog IC designer needs a job

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I love my former employer National Semiconductor but one of the dumber things they have ever done is to institute a ranking system where managers have to fire a percentage of their employees every year even if the employee is doing well. My pal Saurabh got caught up in this madness and lost his job last month. The real tragedy about this is that Saurabh is here on an H1B visa and if he does not get a job in a few months he and his lovely new bride will have to go back to India, where he can work for companies competing against American companies while he pays taxes to India instead of this United States.

I got to be Saurabh’s friend when he transferred into the amplifier application group where I worked along with Bob Pease and Paul Grohe. Saurabh had been an IC designer in a wireless group that National had shut down. I admired him because he got just as much enjoyment from doing applications as he did from doing RF IC design. One thing that impressed me was his curiosity. I showed him schematic capture, PSPICE and board layout in Orcad and in a matter of months he was designing and laying out his own boards, with great results. Then he transferred over to the IC design group in amplifiers where he worked under the wing of experienced designers, eventually making a variation of one of their designs and releasing a chip.

It speaks to his character that when I talked to him last week the thing that upset him most was not that he got laid off just before Thanksgiving or that he might get deported. “My new silicon was due back in two weeks!” he complained. He was heartbroken that he was not going to be able to characterize the part. Yes, Saurabh is one of those rare analog IC designers that actually likes to work in the lab, as opposed to tossing a simulation over the wall and letting other people layout the chip and evaluate the silicon.

To understand what a stupid thing laying him off was, you can look at his credentials. He went to the Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, the one that 60 Minutes did a special on, pointing out that if the parents couldn’t get their kid into New Delhi, they would send them to a “second tier” school like Stanford, MIT or Cal Tech. In addition, Saurabh took advantage of his Silicon Valley location to get an MS from Stanford a couple of years ago. Once again, his sentiments about the experience reveal much about his good character. He wrote me:

Did some really nice courses there. There was one, my pride and joy, a lab course in which we made an LNA and a VCO using lumped components. Lucked out with a smart lab partner, and made a peach of a circuit (400-600 MHz VCO with -122 dBc phase noise @ 100 kHz). My partner was the smarter one and opted to take the project report with him. I, being the sentimental one, wanted the circuit to keep and feel good about. Will show it to you sometime...

So one of the smartest guys I have worked with is giving credit to his lab partner? Wow, an analog IC designer that has humility, you don’t see that very often. Saurabh used the Cadence design environment at National and I have mentioned that he is a fast learner so he got up on PSPICE and Orcad in no time. I suspect he can do anything that is thrown at him. If you have any sense, write me and I will send you a copy of his resume and his email address and you can take it from there. Hurry though; I suspect he won’t be on the job market for long. Write me a paul.rako[at sign here]edn.com


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at 12/2/2008 10:50:28 AM, Steve Smith said:
Based upon the facts in this story.... If your friend is here on an H-1B visa and he has been fired and he does not have a job he is now an illegal alien. His employer should have provided him with fare to return home. He does not have a couple of months to remain in the U.S. to get another H-1B visa and may be jeopardizing his immigration prospects in the futrue.

at 12/2/2008 10:53:16 AM, H. Handbasket (Ms) said:
I meet guys like Saurabh about once a decade, on average. I meet people like his ex-managers all the time. Nat Semis loss will be someone elses gain, and I do hope Saurabh quickly gets a position with more enlightened employers. And didn't Enron have a policy of decimation that ultimately led to a company of ruthless bastards? Not competent, not profitable, in the end not even legal, just ruthless.

at 12/2/2008 12:32:50 PM, John said:
National did the right thing. They fired the H1B. He shouldn't be hired in at the beginning. This job belong to American. National Semi does not lose anything. There are plenty of smart Americans.

at 12/2/2008 12:55:14 PM, Anonymous said:
Everyone (including Google) is laying off engineers, they don't need any more h-1bs Welcome to the club: From: online.barrons.com/article/SB122790845583965243.html?mod=9_0002_b_online_exclusives_weekend ...Certainly, the trend is heading in the wrong direction. California's unemployment rate hit 8.2% in October, up from 7.7% in September, reaching the highest level since September 1994. Keep in mind that this time it isn't just the tech industry that's hurting. The state's construction industry has lost 69,500 jobs this year. In Santa Clara County, home to Apple , Hewlett-Packard , Google , Yahoo! and a host of other industry icons, the jobless rate already stands at 6.9%, worse than the national 6.5% rate. And those numbers don't reflect many of the reductions announced by tech companies in the past few months. Hewlett-Packard (ticker: HPQ) is cutting 24,000 jobs. Sun Microsystems (JAVA) is eliminating 5,000-6,000. More than 1,000 jobs each are disappearing at Yahoo! (YHOO) and eBay (EBAY). Google (GOOG) last week confirmed that it is paring back on contract employees; analyst speculate a cut of 3,000 or more. There have been especially severe cuts in the semiconductor-equipment sector, where Applied Materials (AMAT) is slashing 12% of its staff, KLA-Tencor (KLAC), 15%, and Cymer (CYMI), 8%. Chip makers National Semiconductor (NSM), Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and Nvidia (NVDA), among others, are cutting. Orbitz (OWW) is chopping 10% of its workforce. Symantec (SYMC) is trimming 4.5%. Palm (PALM) is cutting staff but won't say how many; rumors are of a 10%-20% reduction. Now in Chapter 11, electronics retailer Circuit City (CC) has already cut 20% of its workers, and more could be on the way out. Jobs are disappearing at law firms and other service providers to the tech industry, and start-ups are slashing employment in the face of a nearly frozen venture-capital environment.

at 12/2/2008 1:18:20 PM, Dave W said:
Reminds me of an old joke: "They taxied down the runway, then dumped the gas so they could take off." When a firm dumps the the people that generate new products (and no, it is not marketing), it is time to short their stock.

at 12/2/2008 1:21:59 PM, Chris Gammell said:
Yikes, that's some great exposure for Saurabh there. From what you say about him though, he's got the talent to match the recognition. I would only point out to the H1B haters that if Saurabh goes back to India and starts his own company (as he seems very capable of doing), there goes your job and a bunch of others too. Surround yourself with the best minds and you will do well. And you'll learn a lot too.

at 12/2/2008 1:27:14 PM, Brad Wood said:
The thing that rankles me, visa policies or not, is the insane "and the Devil take the hindmost" attitude as a company policy. This has to entail a whole lot of paranoia-fueled political game-playing among the staff, shameless butt-kissing at which engineers are famously unskilled. And it necessarily has to sap morale and degrade creativity and productivity.

at 12/2/2008 1:32:44 PM, John said:
I worked at GE when they instituted a policy where the lowest rank guy on the team was fired every year. It was wonderful. In 2 or 3 years we had an great team and everyone worked and carried their weight. No one complains when their local baseball team dumps their 2nd baseman and gets a better player.

at 12/2/2008 2:24:56 PM, Gary said:
@John - So this is what I don't understand about ranking systems. In a few years you had a "great team and everyone worked and carried their weight." So what happens the next year? You fire someone who is working and carrying their weight?

at 12/2/2008 2:49:38 PM, Bob F. said:
Years ago, and I mean maybe close to 30 years ago, I worked at Signetics which had just become a part of Philips. Times were tough, as they always seem to be in this cyclical chip industry, and after some layoffs, CEO Chick Harwood stood firm and said enough is enough. Rather than let good people go, the company did a temporary shift to a 4 day work week, with the off day staggered… Friday one week, Monday the next, meaning every other weekend was 4 days long… that’s something you can get used to… People could use vacation time (which was accrued and off the books for P&L purposes) or they took it without pay. Bottom line is everyone suffered a little but we made it thru the difficult period, kept good people, and avoided costs of rehiring and retraining. What’s happened to the creative thinking in this valley???

at 12/2/2008 2:54:23 PM, Tom said:
Well gee, I''m sorry about Saurabh. But I went to engineering school for 8 years and to other schools for another 2 years, had a good GPA and never got a decent job. I''ve lost the best years of my life. I now go to work at 9 pm at night, I work my butt off non-stop all night, I''m exposed to radiation every night (I work with radioactive materials), I am constantly stressed out trying to satisfy a mountain of cGMP regulations, I''m stuck in a lousy sweatshop of a company where the only career options are a) be a low-wage production flunky or b) quit my job. I do all of this for a salary which is less than what many technicians make. I dont'' see any possibily of ever retiring or life getting any better. And I''m supposed to feel sorry about your pal Saurabh? Right now working for al-Queda seems better than waiting ANOTHER 25 years to see if this country ever delivers on its' promises.

at 12/2/2008 4:10:09 PM, weaver said:
Wait a minute, I thought that India was our economic partner, not a competitor against us... which is it? Further, the "best schools" comment is boorish, so the conclusion is that best minds are limited to those who have rich parents? Bankers, economists and CEO''s also come from the "best" schools -- I rest my case.

at 12/2/2008 5:08:56 PM, Dave said:
Maybe it was you or him.

at 12/2/2008 9:43:34 PM, unemployed said:
I was laid off 8 months ago and haven't even had one potential employer ask me for an interview. I have 38 years experience and several letters of recommendation and several patents. I am highly skilled and can't even get an interview. Lots of skilled U.S. workers have been recently displaced by this economy. My wife job (also an engineer) is about to be outsourced and we will probably soon lose our home. The whole idea of the H1B program was temporary help. We don't need them anymore and thier only function is to keep skilled well paid U.S. workers out of the job market.

at 12/2/2008 9:57:46 PM, Rick said:
Hey Tom, this country never promised you anything. But you do have the freedom to control your own destiny. You can't find a job that makes you happy? Then look in the mirror, its probably your attitude that's holding you back.

at 12/2/2008 11:48:32 PM, Grogg said:
Engineering is a tough profession. I was lucky to graduate during the good years and get some great experience to help me survive the downturns. I don't think we need so many H1-B visas to get more skilled employees. I watched a lot of skilled Americans get laid off during an earlier downturn and then get replaced by foreign engineers with advanced degrees and little experience. The low wage strategy didn't seem to pay off for the company and their decline has continued. Just last year you had an article stating that they couldn't find enough skilled analog engineers. Well no kidding! They got another job and won't go back there.

at 12/3/2008 5:17:10 AM, Tom said:
Hey Rick, You're a f------ a------. I was told on MANY occasions that the investment in education would be worth it. I wasn't told that it MIGHT pay off. I was told in no uncertain terms that it WOULD pay off in the long run. And the cheap shot about my attitude is just a sleazy, unsubstantiated lie on your part. You don't know the slightest thing about my attitude you a------. I've controlled satellites. I've also worked scrubbing toilets alongside immigrants from south America. I've tried to make the most of every situation I've been in. And over the years, I have continued to read books and journals on engineering and to design and build circuits to develop my skills. I can probably do 50 times what I was capable of doing when I first graduated. So there's nothing wrong with my attitude.

at 12/3/2008 8:34:52 AM, kalin said:
A post at indianewsindex.com like this and saurabh would land a job in a jiffy. I just hope its not a loss for free America.

at 12/3/2008 8:50:40 AM, Patrick said:
H1B visa holders throw American workers out of their jobs all the time so I don't feel sorry for him at all. The real question is, why are the scumbags like Bill Gates calling for an increase in the number of visa holders if there are not enough jobs for the ones that are here? (or course, that doesn't include the AMERICAN'S that are supposed to be hired before one is brought in).

at 12/3/2008 12:49:22 PM, david said:
Guys, H1b frauds have been a big problem now a days, perhaps government should impose a minimum salary cap for an H1b hire and then check their paystubs on regular basis. I mean how much time it will take for a computer to tell that someone's this month's paystub is less than 7500$. In case companies found mis-using this system, they could be fined and if they lay off someone here and hire them in other country, we can tax those companies heavily.

at 12/3/2008 5:07:10 PM, John said:
@Gary - What happened after a few years was that we did have a great team. Some stayed on, some were offered promotional opportunities to lead other organizations, some became fellows or moved to R&D. When they were replaced, the new guys either rose to the top or were cut. Sometimes a great engineer can stay in the same job too long and end up in trouble.

at 12/3/2008 8:42:41 PM, ListenDumbDumb said:
How can I give money to Pakistan ?

at 12/4/2008 4:35:07 AM, Handbasket said:
The Myth of the Vanishing Western Engineer: www.industrialcontroldesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212201195&cid=NL_icdl The old work patterns are disappearing fast, now even the best engineers have to be prepared to be flexible. This invariably means having to relocate to where the work is, and continually learning new skillsets. Saurabh seems to know this - how many people here would be prepared to leave friends and family behind (at some risk, given US employment law) to live in a foreign land in order to maximise their potential as an engineer?

at 12/7/2008 8:17:23 PM, MakeLoveNotWar said:
Friends, we are all well meaning folks. Yes, the Economy is tough for hard working US Citizens, H-1B program has been abused, and McKinsey HR policies are not the best. Let''s not get caught up with politics. Paul: please advise Saurabh to (1) register for unemployment (2) ask NI for return fare back to India (I was in the same situation once) (3) Focus on companies in High Frequency Semiconductor, Solar or Biomedical Instrumentation.

at 12/29/2008 3:50:22 AM, Chetan said:
People always hate to talk about when they are laid off. But as it has become every day's news headline since Yahoo started it with cutting 1500 of its task force last year, now a need of platform has been in demand where people can express their selves in words how they are feeling about their company, whey the got laid off was that justified or not. And every thing they want to tell anonymously.And www.layoffgossip.com is providing you that platform.

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